Attention, cap-and-trade [scam] fans: the carbon-tax [scam] people are not going away | Grist
This past weekend, about 500 people gathered at Wesleyan College in Middletown, Conn., for the Pricing Carbon Conference. But most of the participants weren't excited about pricing carbon via cap-and-trade; they were all about carbon taxes.Indonesia eyeing $1bn climate aid to cut down forests, says Greenpeace | Environment | The Guardian
During a debate about whether to implement a cap-and-trade policy or a carbon tax, Dan Lashof of NRDC, proponent of a cap (though an awfully mild proponent: "So I'm supposed to be here as a die-hard believer in cap-and-trade ..."), had but one or two lone supporters in the large audience.
The conference was a virtual who's who of carbon-tax supporters. Four members of the U.S. House spoke -- Reps. Bob Filner (D-Calif.), Bob Inglis (R-S.C.), John Larson (D-Mass.), and Jim McDermott (D-Wash.). So did author and 350.org activist Bill McKibben, climate scientist James Hansen, Carbon Tax Center founder Charles Komanoff, and EPA lawyers and cap-and-trade rebels Laurie Williams and Allan Zabel.
Indonesia plans to class large areas of its remaining natural forests as "degraded" land in order to cut them down and receive nearly $1bn of climate aid for replanting them with palm trees and biofuel crops, according to Greenpeace International.
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