Thursday, July 03, 2008

Political scientist: Never mind all that satellite temperature data etc--if Cumberland Sound is ice-free in June, that must mean that CO2 is dangerous

UBC prof seeks NDP nod in Vancouver Centre |
Byers said he has decided to run because he wants to be able to look at his children in 20 or 30 years and be able to say that he took action to try to address important challenges facing humanity. He cited climate change as a “huge” concern, noting that this was driven home during a trip he took to the Arctic three weeks ago.

“The thing that was most striking was how the speed of climate change is accelerating—how it’s much worse than anyone really wants to believe,” Byers said. “To give you a sense of this, we flew over Cumberland Sound, which is a very large bay on the east coast of Baffin Island. This was three weeks ago; there was no ice.”
Unfortunately, Byers provides no temperature or ice data for that location for any of the past few billion Junes.

Update: An interesting related post from Climate Skeptic is here.

1 comment:

koyaanisqatsi said...

Since you enjoy cherry-picking data, here's another: NOAA: Fifth Warmest July on Record for Globe @

Boy, that's inconvenient!!!!!!!

As for Climate Skeptics, check out "A Reminder" [to forget ;-)] @

The bizarre curve that is fitted to the UAH is a 5-th Order Polynomial. It's clearly intended to show T downturns from when UAH had no data and at the point from which UAH has no data (yet). Bizarre. Some poor soul had the audacity to question the curve (which is _not_ part of the UAH data), only to be attacked with "if you knew anything about science" or "you're confused". How does one engage in a scientific debate when one faces comments like that? But clearly you (and the Climate Skeptic folks) are only interested in comments from those who agree with you.

Regarding your Cumberland Sound comments, the earth has been around for roughly 4.5 billion years, but it's highly unlikely that it's surface resembled it's current form for any where near that long Few billion Junes? You seem deliberately to ignore the past thirty years of Arctic ice melt, along with last years (2007) record summer ice melt, along with the fact that last year's record may indeed be broken this year. It's too soon to tell, but Al Gore's "alarmist" views may well be vindicated.

A friend of Tim. K.s