Remember last summer, when we were supposed to believe that convincing audio evidence would be released at the upcoming AOU meeting?
An excerpt from this article (dated Aug 2, 2005):
Another of those experts on Tuesday agreed with Prum.
“We were astounded. Yes, I totally believe, thank goodness, there are ivory bills,” Mark Robbins of the University of Kansas said in a telephone interview. “We are ecstatic. Once everybody hears these vocalizations, you can’t help but be convinced.”
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How many times can one extinct bird be rediscovered?
Generally when people try to convince you with information that is "coming" and not available, they have nothing.
Anonymous Theorum -"Generally when people try to convince you with information that is "coming" and not available, they have nothing."
Anonymous Corollary - In every case, when people try to convince you with information on extant IBWOs that is "coming" and not available, they have nothing.
Ok, I can buy the fact that www.fishcrow.com is an awesome practical joke. But what is the deal with Cyberthrush.
A good practical joke is often, in retrospect, very loony in appearance. That gives it a certain cache to still play in the real world. "Oh, what a hoot! That was a great practical joke." That sort of thing. And indeed, a great practical joker is admired in the real world.
But it doesn't work to be just half-loony. Now Cyber's blog is not a great practical joke. For one thing, it's only half loony compared to www.fishcrow.com. And he doesn't actually go out in the field and bring back outrageous data, as fishcrow does.
A practical joke requires action. Not just talk.
So, going on the assumption that Cyberthrush is actually serious on his blog, what motivates him.
1.he's a true believer
2.he's yanking our chains
Note, that the second is still a serious endeavor that I could respect.
Does anybody know this guy?
It's coming, girls.
It's only going to be revealed to the girls? What about us boys?
Is this some trick?
What's coming?
Has the greatest conservation rediscovery story in the last 1000 years been reduced to some crafty parlor game? How can these people still be taken seriously?
I have only questions. No answers. Sorry.
"the acute damage already done by skeptics, over decades, in impeding the process does not bode well." -Cyberthrush
I am astonished by this statement.
As a casual but attentive follower of the Ivory Billed debate I find it ironic that skeptics are seen as "impediments". If the skepticism is real, and based on sound science, then it is vital to the process. I think this poor person has a limited understanding of what scepticism and the scientific process is.
Also, does anyone have any input as to the actual damages to the ivory billed woodpecker that have come about from the skeptics?
From Tom Nelson's preface, it seems to me that he would be as excited as everyone else if there was some solid irrefutable evidence to support these claims. I would imagine he would post the newly minted photos on his blog, and proclaim his joy at the discovery.
-Am I wrong?
-C L - Washington
It's only going to be revealed to the girls? What about us boys?
Is this some trick?
That's it! It's a fabulous Amy joke. Way to go Amy!
"I would imagine he would post the newly minted photos on his blog, and proclaim his joy at the discovery.
-Am I wrong?"
You are not wrong. I wrote this on the "Ivory-bill skeptic home page":
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If the definitive photographic proof ever comes, I would then be in favor of launching into massive fundraising and Ivory-bill-specific habitat programs. If we ever get definitive proof, I pledge to personally donate a significant-to-me sum of money to the Ivory-bill conservation effort.
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Tom
Maybe you should have a pledge page. All the Skeptics could show their sincerity by making a pledge a head of time.
A head of time? That brings up a question. Just how long is "another heaven and another earth"?
I would imagine he would post the newly minted photos on his blog, and proclaim his joy at the discovery.
Not unless he pays me for those photos! Wait, just pretend I didn't say that. I'm not supposed to talk about it just yet.
Just as an aside, is it just me, or does everyone else also wonder when the Ivory-bills concert is going to be each time they visit Cyberthrush's blog?
Just as an aside, is it just me, or does everyone else also wonder when the Ivory-bills concert is going to be each time they visit Cyberthrush's blog?
Yes, exactly. I do the same thing. I see it and my mind wants to make a "long i" in the "LiVE"
Wasn't there also a character named Ivory Bill in an old literary tale somewhere? So then I think some character from Mark Twain must still be alive.
There is some huge Bigfoot news coming down the pike. HUGE!
It's going to buh-low you away.
The Bigfoot skeptics will be silenced, for once and for all.
Also, there is some huge Loch Ness Monster news coming down the pike, but it is about twice as far down the pike as the Bigfoot news. Maybe even 2.5 times as far down the pike. In any event, it's coming and it's going to be huge. HUGE, I tell you.
The nemesis of the Man from U.N.C.L.E was of course, THRUSH, the Technological Hierarchy for the Removal of Undesirables and the Subjugation of Humanity. When you think of it that way, “Cyberthrush” sounds just a little redundant, doesn’t it?
“Cyberthrush” sounds just a little redundant, doesn’t it?
It's amazing and sometimes hilarious the comparisons that the human mind can make.
Bravo.
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