Thursday, November 02, 2006

"Controversy and the bird"

Here.

An excerpt (the bold font is mine):
"All woodpeckers bang on trees," he [Geoff Hill] said, but no other makes a double knock like the ivory-billed.

Hill said it is hard to catch the bird on camera because it hides behind trees when it lands, but it's not impossible. He plans to use time-lapse cameras on future trips. By expanding his team to as many as 14 members and using up to 30 cameras, purchased with state, federal and private funding, he ensures success.

"I saw it and seeing is believing," he said. "We will get a picture of it."

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

The Thylacine held the status of "endangered species" until 1986, when it was declared extinct by international standards. That standard states that any animal that has not been proven to exist for 50 years is declared extinct.

(wikipedia)

Anonymous said...

I recently heard someone from Auburn call this Dr. Hill’s Ivory-bill Sasquatch. The person was concerned that resources and funding were been diverted from known species needing conservation, of which the panhandle has dozens apparently. A backhanded comment was also made that the research was 95% self-promotion / fund raising, and only 5% conservation. Does not sound like everyone over there is buying into the great ‘discovery’.

Anonymous said...

This part of the Florida Panhandle is one of the most remote areas in the United States.

Surely Hill is not really this naïve about his research site. The Red Bank – Bruce area is about as “remote” as the back of a mall parking lot. This guy just continues to erode any credibility about his work. So sad.

Anonymous said...

”By expanding his team to as many as 14 members and using up to 30 cameras, purchased with state, federal and private funding, he ensures success.”

The expansion of the teams seems to be following up on the concept that if you put 1000 monkeys in front of keyboards they will eventually pound out all of the great works of literature.

So why expand the teams to only 14 members. Expand them to 1000 or so. With that sort of sample size you will have a better chance of getting someone so delusional they will barely have to be in the swamp before they shout out “Ivory-bill”. One would want to select against people who might just shout out “Ivory-bill” at random times during the job interview, in their sleep, etc. but other than that try to find people who are most apt to think they will see one.

Because Hill is wrong when he says “seeing is believing”. He should know by now that when it comes to the IBWO “believing is seeing”. And I hope he has fun with all of that “state, federal and private funding”. There are ecosystems going to hell out there while he follows his delusions down some trail in the swamp.

Anonymous said...

Well, one thing this whole IBWO epic fiasco has proven is that any fool can get a PHD.

Anonymous said...

Hill doesn't know much about the project but believes it would not interfere with the ivory-billed woodpecker or its habitat along the Choctawhatchee River, which is about 19 miles from the proposed site.

"There is no reason to think there will be an immediate conflict," he said. "This is not a swamp development"



If the Ivory Bill actually existed, then a major new airport within 19 miles would definitely promote future developement that would effect the Chockfullahooyee.

This Hillcrow fellow is so stupid. He drives me nuts. He doesn't deserve to even be at Auburn. Auburn is a joke as long as he is there. What an idiot! He has everything wrong. He knows nothing about birds, environmental effects, NEPA, or the ESA.

How did he get to his position. Was Auburn that hard up?

Anonymous said...

Hill said his interest in the woodpecker started two years ago when researchers from Cornell University acquired video proof of the bird in Arkansas.

Oh, puh-leeeeeaze. I thought Hill was a little overzealous, but if he thinks that Cornell "acquired video proof", he's not even qualified to assess his own evidence.

Anonymous said...

Over at BF, one of the few defenders of Dr Hill's credibility has just departed; yes, sadly, chimp prick, who had promised a photo after the end of February '07, has thrown his toys out of the pram because he didn't like being called a racist (unfortunately the mods have deleted most of the entertaining posts from the IBWO thread). So he joins Billbill, stringclodes, tmguy and that intellectual masturbator Wompoo Dove in the 'If I can't be in charge, I'm going home' club.

Anonymous said...

Can't wait for the Tom Wolfe book to come out. Can't be long now.

Anonymous said...

"I saw it and seeing is believing"

I thought the phrase "painting oneself into a corner" was just for home remodelers.

Anonymous said...

Because Hill is wrong when he says “seeing is believing”. He should know by now that when it comes to the IBWO “believing is seeing”.

One of the best quotes I've seen.