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“It’s impossible to prove that the ivorybilled woodpecker is not there,” Sibley said, “so there will always be some shred of hope.”
A truly stupid thing to say. That is like saying that levitation is impossible to disprove so that there will always be a shred of hope that humans can levitate. Why would humans spend their time with all of the things that cannot be disproved.
Sibley should stick to bird identification and painting and leave the philosophy (or abstract thought) to others.
Not me - but others.
"A truly stupid thing to say. That is like saying that levitation is impossible to disprove so that there will always be a shred of hope that humans can levitate."
Bad analogy;nobody has ever demonstrated levitation, but the IBWO did once exist!
"Bad analogy;nobody has ever demonstrated levitation, but the IBWO did once exist!"
Well some people think they have demonstrated levitation - just as some people think they have demonstrated that IBWO exist in the 21st century.
But your point is a good one and that's why I thought people like you - and not me - should be dealing with the abstract thought.
Bad analogy
How about Carolina Parakeet, Great Auk, Heath Hen, or Dodo?
I'm afraid the first anon is right. Why don't experts just stick to what they know. Quit this useless speculating.
It's stupid to say there is always hope. Hell, some wives still believe their husbands are held captive by the vietnamese. There's still hope?
Give it up, people.
"How about Carolina Parakeet, Great Auk, Heath Hen, or Dodo?"
or the Eskimo Curlew. I just finished reading Jared Diamond's "The Third Chimpanzee" and was very surprised to see that he left Eskimo Curlew off of his supposedly complete list of extinct or possibly extinct birds of North America. This just reinforces my belief that if you want accurate information about extinct bird it is best to distrust authorities, especially famous authorities, and most especially ornithologists who are "certain"
"There's still hope?"
This brings up the topic the Hillcrow people raised in not wanting to provide "false hope". Isn't "false hope" an oxymoron?
Hope is wanting to believe something is true or that something might happen. It cannot be either true or false. If you know it is true then there is no hope involved. I think what people are talking about when they say "false hope" is hope for something that has a very low probability of being true. But there is nothing "false" about that sort of hope. In fact, "hope" is, if anything, more intense when it is most removed from reality and not supported by evidence.
Which of course leads us back to the IBWO rediscovery and the TBs.
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