Emissions scheme will kill NT economy: truckies - Northern Territory News
But three environmental scientists, all authors with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, have said Prof Garnaut's deal would guarantee environmental and social disaster.
Bill Hare, David Karoly and Amanda Lynch criticised Prof Garnaut's recommendation and reportedly want carbon emission cuts of up to 40 per cent.
They said if more ambitious greenhouse targets are not adopted, ecosystems would be destroyed.
But scientist and climate sceptic David Evans, once with the Australian Greenhouse Office, said carbon emissions would rise worldwide regardless of what Australia does.
"What Australia does has a negligible effect on the atmosphere,'' he said.
"The dire consequences are unlikely ... as the Earth has never gone into runaway greenhouse warming, despite carbon dioxide levels in the past of over 20 times the current levels.
"If carbon emissions don't cause significant global warming then we are trashing our economies for no good reason, pointlessly making us poorer by wasting time and resources.''
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Bill Hare is the Greenpeace International Campaign Director, although he has been esconced at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Change Research since 2004 as a "visiting scientist".
http://pr-usa.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=129069&Itemid=34 : "Too much time is being wasted arguing about procedural details and restating historical positions and not enough real substance is being put on the table"said Bill Hare, Director of Climate Policy at Greenpeace International. "This is the third round of talks since the two-year process was launched in Bali last year, and by now the deal that will be agreed at the end of 2009 should be taking shape"
These are Hare's contact details at Potsdam:
http://www.pik-potsdam.de/institute/contact/staff/h/?searchterm=Dr%20Bill%20Hare
This is the "research" that they say he carries out:Staff:
http://www.pik-potsdam.de/research/research-domains/earth-system-analysis/members/index_html
"Hare, Bill -
Explaining environmental issues to policy makers, IPCC negotiator."
This is how he is described by an Australian "Green Directory" website: http://www.advance.org/en/dir/?483
"Bill Hare is an Australian scientist and a leading figure in the international climate debate. He was a lead author of the contribution of Working Group III to the Fourth Assessment Report of the IPCC and the Synthesis Report and is a Visiting Scientist at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research. Previously (?), Bill worked as director of climate policy at Greenpeace International and he continues to do work for the organisation."
He is variously described these days as a Physicist and Environmental Scientist. Try doing a search for his bio or cv. There isn't any. Think of any other prominent scientist and do the same search, there will be a number of links with professional qualifications.
When he appears at conferences and the list of presenters is published, the qualifications and bio's of every scientist is given with their name. Not so with Hare, just a simple one liner saying he is a visiting scientist at Potsdam.
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