Great idea, Dr McPhail!: He suggests that climate realists "Just look a little bit beneath the surface"

'If everyone lived like Victorians, we'd need four planets' | theage.com.au

As an independent commissioner, Dr [Ian] McPhail — who graduated from teaching, pursued academia (geography), and then began a long career in bureaucracy — is an unusual public servant.
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... To the climate change sceptics, or rather, denialists, Dr McPhail says: "Just look a little bit beneath the surface. I'm a sceptic, I'm like (Professor Ross) Garnaut — you don't believe in climate change, it is not a religion, you are either persuaded by the science or you are not, and it seems to be the science has a very high probability of being accurate."