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A herd of climate change blogosphere heavyweights (Time Mag. “Heros of the environment” all) are pounding on Bill McKibben over his views on the outcome of Copenhagen, in particular, the role of the UN and small island nations in developing global climate policies. And this comes just weeks after a mild flogging by Andrew Revkin at the NYT and Gavin Schmidt at Real Climate.On The Media: Transcript of "Hot Mail" (December 11, 2009)
ANDREW REVKIN: If you are a foe of restrictions on greenhouses gasses, you can find plenty of real science out there to support your contention. The rate of sea level rise in this century is still largely undetermined. It could be disastrous; it could be five feet. There was just a new study out of Antarctica saying that’s entirely plausible, but there’s no way to characterize the probability of it.Capping wine making is next global warming step - VIEWPOINTS - The News Herald
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ANDREW REVKIN: Well, the University of East Anglia has announced an inquiry into how they became public. They describe this as a criminal breach. There are people who describe it as a heroic whistleblower. [LAUGHS] What they contain is thousands of not just emails but documents, including raw computer code, a programmer’s years-long log of his laments of dealing with these confusing data sets and scientists talking to each other about pending papers.
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BOB GARFIELD: In one case, scientists put together a graph of temperature trends, and part of the graph derived from tree ring data and part derived from thermometer measurements and part was kind of lopped off because it suggested that for one important period temperatures were going down, not up. Using nominal facts, assembling them artfully to tell a larger lie, is that not what this graph represents?
ANDREW REVKIN: I can't make that judgment. No one has dived into the data underlying these graphs, except the peer reviewers when the papers were published. I have to wait for the inquiry to be completed before I can make some kind of determination.
To my horror, the article stated that all grape wines are made from carbon dioxide. The plants breathe in CO2, the grape forms because of that and then is crushed, stomped or otherwise pulverized and caused to ferment. Then out comes the wine. Wow!Global warming initiatives could put Wisconsin lawmakers into quandary | FOX 21 Online
The thing that scares me about this is the fact that the fermentation process also produces more CO2. Big bad word, that CO2.
MADISON (WPR) Governor Jim Doyle says one of his top priorities in 2010 will be to pass a package of recommendations from his task force on global warming.
This could set up a tough vote for some lawmakers.
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