GUYON Let's look at the actual reason though behind some of this, despite all the technicalities about what the best solution is. I mean the blunt truth is that you simply don't believe that man made climate change is occurring do you?
RODNEY I'm very sceptical.
GUYON You're very sceptical about this, but you have a recent survey in a scientific magazine of 1372 climate science experts - 98% of them believe that man made climate change is affecting the planet. I mean isn't your position a little bit ridiculous?
RODNEY Not at all. Science isn't a matter of doing a survey and a consensus. Science is about the facts and about the theories, and about testing those theories against the facts. When you take the theory of human induced climate change, the facts don't support. Now what we're saying is, it could be true but we doubt it, and why would we be rushing off having this complex scheme if it hasn't been demonstrated to be true? Particularly we've also seen NIWA now having to rework all it's own figures because of the work that ACT's done in parliament and others, exposing them for being nonsense.
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