- Bishop Hill blog - A new typology for the climate debate

This is a guest post by Lloyd Robertson.

I think we need a new typology for people who comment on climate--better than warmists vs. skeptics or any other "teams". I propose three main analytical categories:

state of mind
whether still learning or not
communicating with public/media honestly or dishonestly.

BS detectors | Climate Etc.

Here is an alternative hypothesis: the motivation reasoning is on the other side, the liberal defenders of the CAGW consensus. Once the ‘consensus’ argument stepped beyond climate science into the realm of ‘dangerous’ impacts and ‘solutions’ involving global changes in governance and energy policy, BS detectors were triggered in people who didn’t share that motivation.

It 's already winter in Iceland: blizzards and blackouts throughout the region. Thousands of sheep still buried by Renato Samson | Climate Realists

Here's an amazing video that shows the rescue of a specimen buried by snow.

Piers Corbyn: The Arctic story - BBC-warmist cover-up for Global warming failure | Climate Realists

Whatever the detail the BBC-Greenpeace idea that records of the ~30 years of ice indicate anything about climate is delusional nonsense. Their own 'definition' of climate requires 30year averages so their ice data gives a ONE POINT ice graph. Only somebody with serious learning problems can deduce a trend from a one point graph. However can anything be concluded about Arctic ice from what has been going on in the Northern hemisphere on longer records? The answer is yes. It is almost certain that Arctic ice, like all the other 'big picture' meteorological parameters in the northern hemisphere to which it is connected [eg Pacific (PDO) and Atlantic (AMO) circulations, Tibetan plateau temperatures, USA temperatures], has a ~60year (solar-lunar) cycle so a 30yr decline in ice is just one half of the story. The next 30 years (or more probably the 30 yrs from 2007) will see Arctic ice expand as we head into the new Little Ice Age.