Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Peter Lilley MP on BBC2's Newsnight: "you've presented something which purports to be new evidence that contains nothing new, which is tendentious, not peer reviewed, by a well known alarmist, and absolute bunkum... compared with the IPCC"

Transcript - Newsnight discusses the Arctic, with Peter Lilley MP and Natalie Bennett MP | Carbon Brief
Lilley: "I was told to come on this program and not discuss the science, to take the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change assessment as a correct projection of what the likely trends were going to be, and I was happy to do that. Instead you've presented something which purports to be new evidence that contains nothing new, which is tendentious, not peer reviewed, by a well known alarmist, and absolute bunkum... compared with the IPCC. The IPCC's forecast is this, not what you've just projected, the IPCC says sea ice is projected to shrink in both the Arctic and Antarctic, under all scenarios. In some projections, Arctic late summer ice disappears almost entirely by the latter part of the 21st century. They then present a graph of all the different projections - none of them shows it melting before the year 2070 on a regular basis in the summer. Now of course, it used to melt from time to time, in the 30s it was much warmer in the Antarctic. So you've got a very tendentious piece of, presentation there, by someone who's disagreeing with the IPCC science. Its the BBC's policy not to broadcast anyone who thinks the IPCC is excessive..."

Paxman: "But you do accept that climate change is happening?"

Lilley: "I do, and I want to work on the basis of the IPCC's science, not something that concocted by BBC in a rather alarmist fashion, which isn't peer reviewed, which none of us has seen before..."

Paxman: "I'm afraid the BBC's not sufficiently coordinated to manage to concoct something like that..."

Lilley: "It did. It just has."

Paxman: "It's a report presented by our science editor speaking to someone who frankly knows a great deal more about this than, certainly I do, and I suggest than any of the three of us"

Lilley: "No, not than I do."

Paxman: "Not than you do? You know better than this chap?"

Lilley: "Well I do, I know what the IPCC says, and I think that their assessment of the science is better than Professor Wadhams who is a well known alarmist."

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