Wednesday, March 06, 2019

2005: Minutes after an AAAS writers' email exchange on an embargoed McIntyre/McKitrick paper/story, Mann forwards it to Briffa, Santer, Schneider, Schmidt etc?


From page 2335 of University of Arizona Overpeck ClimateGate emails (released Feb 2019) here

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Martin,

This is all about Mann's famous "hockey stick" graph of the climate of the past 1000 years. Science published a paper a couple of months ago by a mainstream climate researcher that raised questions about the uncertainties involved. The contrarians--including some extremists--have been on Mann about it for years. There has been at least one dustup over an irresponsibly published anti paper in a disreputable journal. GRL is quite reputable but not hard to get into. I've been considering yet again whether it's time to get into some of this. This paper this week is not the time, but I'm guessing the time should be soon. There's another contrarian angle on the ipcc case for human-induced warming coming up that might pair with this.

Dick

Richard A. Kerr Senior Writer, Science phone br> fax br> rkerr@aaas.org 1200 New York Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20005

>>> "Martin Enserink" 01/26/05 09:46AM >>> All,

I was appraoched by a former colleague who is now the publisher of 'Natuur en Techniek,' a Dutch monthly magazine. They are publishing a 12-page take-out about a paper that will be published in GRL shortly, which attacks what is apparently a central graph in the Kyoto treaty, produced by climate researcher Michael Mann.

The GRL paper (written by two Canadian climate skeptics) and this Dutch magazine story all but accuse Mann of scientific misconduct, and they take some swipes at Nature as well.

The magazine seems to think they're onto something huge, and they're trying to get international attention. A Canadian newspaper has agreed to print their story, and the Wall Street Journal apparently is interested. (I have attached an English translation of it.) Dick: you're a much better judge than I am as to whether this is a interesting, or a big deal. So I'm just forwarding the story, which is embargoed for tomorrow -- do with it what you think is best.

Seperately, the Natuur en Techniek editor is asking whether Science is interested in somehow cooperating in the organization of a meeting about this topic later this year, organized with the Royal Dutch Meteorology Institute. They also wanted to know if I would chair part of it. Eliot, Dan: I assume we are not, but I thought I'd check. (I certainly am not going to chair a session about a topic I know little about.)

Cheers, Martin 

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Martin Enserink

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